tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312042597262488816.post8036340896400560109..comments2023-01-09T22:39:28.197+09:00Comments on Flower Ornament Depository 華嚴藏: Zodiac Signs of the Buddhist MaṇḍalaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312042597262488816.post-68340472525802164752016-02-23T18:59:01.429+09:002016-02-23T18:59:01.429+09:00Added to the above:
The quote from Manu smṛti made...Added to the above:<br />The quote from Manu smṛti made me curious. The exact śloka reads:<br /><br />hasti (elephant) go (cows) aśva (horses) uṣṭra (camels) damako (tamer) nakṣatrairya (stars/constellations) ca (and) jīvati (lives by, lives off)<br /><br />Usually the word 'Jyotiṣa' is used to indicate astrologers, but here the reference is specifically to one who lives of stars. Later there is also a reference to those who make use of weapons. This may suggest one use of astrology, using solely the nakṣatras to cause pain and suffering to others, which is a very secret part of astrology.<br /><br />Best regards, Visti LarsenAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03910882386659448906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3312042597262488816.post-67452686234045879582016-02-23T18:42:01.089+09:002016-02-23T18:42:01.089+09:00Dear Jeffrey,
Lovely work that your doing and love...Dear Jeffrey,<br />Lovely work that your doing and lovely article.<br />The Kalachakra's reference to the Siddhantas of Brahma, Saura (Sūrya), Yavana and Romaka is almost a copy of the Pañcasiddhānta of Śrī Varahamihira. Except that it ignores the Pauliśa siddhanta therein. Romaka has traditionally been referred to as the Siddhanta belonging to Romaharṣaṇa Ṛṣi, one of the composers of Vedas.<br />One of your previous articles notes that the Pañcasiddhantika was translated into Chinese and referred to later on, which is likely the source from which the Kalachakra Tantra makes its quote.<br /><br />On another note, Hellenistic Astrology was in use at the birth of the Śrī Kṛṣṇa Avatara, which lately is being dated to between 3000-4000 BCE. Traditional Astrologers date Śrī Kṛṣṇa's birth to 3102 BCE. This is concluded based on <br />a) the Mahabharata dating which astronomers seem to agree has occurred either around 4300 BCE or around 3000 BCE. <br />b) Śrī Kṛṣṇa having been born prior to this event, has been referred to by Garga Ṛṣi in Gargā Samhita, and with this his hellenistic star positions, using the sidereal zodiac (Nir-ayana Chakra).<br />c) the Mahabharata itself being a work of the fore-mentioned BCE dates, having reference to both hellenistic and star positions.<br />d) Further, the oldest Siddhanta texts of Romaka, Vaśiṣṭa, Sūrya, Pauliśa and Brahma all mention both star and zodiac-sign positions in their texts, showing that the use of hellenistic astrology was indeed used.<br />e) The Viṣṇu Purāṇa, being considered the most sanskrit-authentic among the Purāṇa, makes clear reference of both the sidereal (niryana) and tropical (sayana) chakras and lists 12 signs.<br />f) Parāśara Rṣi, being the father of Ṛṣi Vedavyāsa, compiled his work Bṛhat Parāśara Horā Śastra, wherein the hellenistic astrology finds its pivot, at a time which preceded the entire Mahābharata, and therefore likely knew of a well developed hellenistic astrology at least around 3000 BCE.<br /><br />Given the above, it is likely that the use of Hellenistic astrology is much much older than we are given to believe, and that the Egyptians, Babylonians and Persians have much older traditions of this practice.<br /><br />Best regards, Visti LarsenAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03910882386659448906noreply@blogger.com